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Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] Pessimist Event Logger
From: Hugo Daniel Meyer (meyer.hugo_at_[hidden])
Date: 2012-01-31 11:53:57

Hello again.

I've found where the connection with the event logger takes places. I've
some doubts about the next section of code:

*rc = ompi_dpm.connect_accept(MPI_COMM_SELF, 0, port, true, el_comm);*

* if(OMPI_SUCCESS != rc) {*


* }*

* /* Send Rank, receive max buffer size and max_clock back */*

* MPI_Comm_rank(MPI_COMM_WORLD, &rank);*

* rc = mca_pml_v.host_pml.pml_send(&rank, 1, MPI_INTEGER, 0,*



* mca_vprotocol_receiver.el_comm);*


* OMPI_ERRHANDLER_INVOKE(mca_vprotocol_receiver.el_comm, rc,*

* __FILE__ ": failed sending event logger

* rc = mca_pml_v.host_pml.pml_recv(&connect_info, 2,

* 0,

* mca_vprotocol_receiver.el_comm,


* OMPI_ERRHANDLER_INVOKE(mca_vprotocol_receiver.el_comm, rc, \*

* __FILE__ ": failed receiving event logger

I understand that you make a connection using the dpm framework between the
process 0 (the logger) and yourself (MPI_COMM_SELF). But then, you send and
receive messages with pml. My question is: ¿Where is posted the recv of the
event_logger? I didn't find where in the code the event_logger receives the
rank, and answer the handshake.

Thanks for your help.

Hugo Meyer

2012/1/30 Hugo Daniel Meyer <meyer.hugo_at_[hidden]>

Hello Aurelien.

2012/1/27 Aurélien Bouteiller <bouteill_at_[hidden]>


It seems you want to implement some sort of remote pessimistic logging -a
la MPICH-V1- ?
MPICH-V: Toward a Scalable Fault Tolerant MPI for Volatile Nodes -- George
Bosilca, Aurélien Bouteiller, Franck Cappello, Samir Djilali, Gilles Fédak,
Cécile Germain, Thomas Hérault, Pierre Lemarinier, Oleg Lodygensky,
Frédéric Magniette, Vincent Néri, Anton Selikhov -- In proceedings of The
IEEE/ACM SC2002 Conference, Baltimore USA, November 2002

  We could say that is similar because i use a distributed logging
mechanism, but is a little diferent because my Memory Channels and
Checkpoint Servers are the processing nodes, i don't have specials nodes to
take care of the message log and checkpoints.

In the PML-V, unlike older designs, the payload of messages and the
non-deterministic events follow a different path. The payload of messages
is logged on the sender's volatile memory, while the non-deterministic
events are sent to a stable event logger, before allowing the process to
impact the state of others (the code you have found in the previous email).
The best depiction of this distinction can be read in this paper
 author = {Aurelien Bouteiller and
              Thomas H{\'e}rault and
              George Bosilca and
              Jack J. Dongarra},
 title = {Correlated Set Coordination in Fault Tolerant Message Logging
 booktitle = {Euro-Par 2011 Parallel Processing - 17th International
Conference, Proceedings, Part II},
 month = {September},
 year = {2011},
 pages = {51-64},
 publisher = {Springer},
 series = {Lecture Notes in Computer Science},
 volume = {6853},
 year = {2011},
 isbn = {978-3-642-23396-8},
 doi = {},

 I will take a look to this paper to clarify this distinction.

 If you intend to store both payload and message log on a remote node, I
suggest you look at the "sender-based" hooks, as this is where the message
payload is managed, and adapt from here. The event loggers can already
manage a subset only of the processes (if you launch as many EL as
processes, you get a 1-1 mapping), but they never handle message payload;
you'll have to add all this yourself is it so pleases you.

  Yes, i need to store every message, not only the non-deterministics one.
In my case every node is an event logger. Let's say that i have 16
processes in four nodes (four by node), so the messages received by all
processes residing in node0 need to be stored in node1, and the received
messages received by all processes residing in node1, need to be stored in
node2, and so on.

If i understand correctly, i have to modify the behavior in
ompi/mca/vprotocol/pessimist, to manage the message payload. And another
question, is there a way to launch ELs in every node? or i will have to
modify this too?

Thanks a lot for your help Aurélien.


Le 27 janv. 2012 à 11:19, Hugo Daniel Meyer a écrit :

> Hello Aurélien.
> Thanks for the clarification. Considering what you've mentioned i will
have to make some adaptations, because to me, every single message has to
be logged. So, a sender not only will be sending messages to the receiver,
but also to an event logger. Is there any considerations that i've to take
into account when modifying the code?. My initial idea is to use the
el_comm with a group of event loggers (because every node uses a different
event logger in my approach), and then send the messages to them as you do
when using MPI_ANY_SOURCE.
> Thanks for your help.
> Hugo Meyer
> 2012/1/27 Aurélien Bouteiller <bouteill_at_[hidden]>
> Hugo,
> Your program does not have non-deterministic events. Therefore, there are
no events to log. If you add MPI_ANY_SOURCE, you should see this code being
called. Please contact me again if you need more help.
> Aurelien
> Le 27 janv. 2012 à 10:21, Hugo Daniel Meyer a écrit :
> > Hello @ll.
> >
> > George, i'm using some pieces of the pessimist vprotocol. I've observed
that when you do a send, you call vprotocol_receiver_event_flush and here
the macro __VPROTOCOL_RECEIVER_SEND_BUFFER is called. I've noticed that
here you try send a copy of the message to process 0 using the el_comm.
This section of code is never executed, at least in my examples. So, the
message is never sent to the Event Logger, am i correct with this? I think
that this is happening because the
mca_vprotocol_pessimist.event_buffer_length is always 0.
> >
> > Is there something that i've got to turn on, or i will have to modify
this behavior manually to connect and send messages to the EL?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Hugo Meyer
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* University of Tennessee
* 1122 Volunteer Boulevard, suite 350
* Knoxville, TN 37996
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