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From: Lourival Mendes (mendes.lourival_at_[hidden])
Date: 2007-10-22 21:35:36


Thanks a lot for your comments Jeff..

I will try some of your advices.. and further I will let you know... in the
mean time we can try at least to convince the old school of MPIers to
include the Pascal interface... :)

Best regards

Lourival

2007/10/22, Jeff Squyres <jsquyres_at_[hidden]>:
>
> On Oct 22, 2007, at 6:44 PM, Lourival Mendes wrote:
>
> > Hy everybody, I'm interested in use the MPI on the Pascal
> > environment. I tryed the MPICH2 list but no success. On the Free
> > Pascal Compiler list, Daniël invited me to subscribe this list and
> > open a discussion on the interface of OpenMPI for Pascal.
> >
> > Probably as Daniël knows there is almost no reference on the MPI
> > for Pascal interface, only some very few tryes, one of them in
> > Russian.
> >
> > I would like to know if there is someone working on the interface
> > of OpenMPI for Pascal?
>
> There was a mail or two about it a while ago; you might want to dig
> through the OMPI list archives. The short version is that none of
> the current Open MPI members have a desire to add Pascal bindings to
> MPI. It also might be somewhat of an uphill battle to convince the
> old-school MPI'ers to include a Pascal interface in Open MPI, even if
> it was developed by a 3rd party and contributed to the project.
>
> However, that should not deter you from pursuing a Pascal interface
> if you want one. Traditionally, extensions to MPI have been
> implemented in an MPI-neutral fashion and released into the wild as
> 3rd party libraries (such as the C++ bindings for MPI several years
> ago). The Pascal bindings likely don't need to know anything about
> the internals of an MPI implementation -- they can just call the C
> bindings. So it's possible/likely that you would write up a Pascal
> interface that would work with both Open MPI and MPICH (and any other
> MPI's out there).
>
> As I typed out the above, I have a dim recollection of the Pascal
> interface needing to obtain the values of the C constants during its
> setup/compilation phase (note that these values are going to be
> different between different MPI implementations). You have a few
> options here; you could write a parser for mpi.h to extract the
> values you need (e.g., in perl or somesuch) or write a short C
> program to extract them and printf the values that you capture into a
> Pascal header file or something (I'm not sure if you need the literal
> or symbolic values -- I remember very little of Pascal). Either way,
> with a little diligence and creativity, it could probably be done.
>
> > Also I'm putting a very newbie question: What is the main
> > difference between the OpenMPI and MPICH ?
>
> Short version: we're different projects implementing the same API
> standard.
>
> --
> Jeff Squyres
> Cisco Systems
>
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Lourival J. Mendes Neto