On May 7, 2013, at 6:00 PM, "Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)" <email@example.com> wrote:
> Sorry for the high latency reply.
> I thought about this quite a bit today. Here's a thinking-out-of-the-box question: should we just use the default/system installed libltdl instead of embedding? If we don't embed, many of these problems go away, right? I.e., we can still have the same
options for plugins: non-default, but available if you ask for it *and* there's a system-level libltdl available.
> FWIW: I see RHEL 6.x uses libtool/libltdl 2.2.6. Do we:
> a) care about supporting plugins by default on distros with older ltdl versions?
> b) use any functionality beyond libltdl 2.2.6? (or some other older/benchmark distro ltdl version that we care about supporting)
> Attached is a patch that does a few minor things:
> - avoid the use of AM_CONDITIONAL for the libltdl subdir
> - ensure to have libtool avoid setting up Fortran and C++ (a trick we learned from MPICH :-) )
> - disallow embedded mode and plugins (per our phone discussion the other day)
> - reorder the plugins support AC_MSG_RESULT to come before any WARN/ERROR messages
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@inria.fr> wrote:
>> I've been working on making hwloc v1.7 pass our tests/embedded scripts
>> in the last days. I fixed some minor issues but here's the remaining
>> (big) one.
>> First problem is that we need the AM_CONDITIONAL for HWLOC_LTDL_INCLUDED
>> to be executed when embedded. I can fix this by moving into
>> HWLOC_DO_AM_CONDITIONAL. But...
>> We conditionally enable SUBDIRS=libltdl (in src/Makefile.am) when
>> plugins are enabled and the internal ltdl is used. Assuming embedders
>> don't want hwloc plugins, this builds fine since we don't enter libltdl
>> during "make", and we can avoid the (ugly) ltdl configuration entirely
>> . But "make distclean" still enters libltdl unconditionally, and it
>> fails if LTDL wasn't configured because the Makefile is missing.
>> For the record, you had a similar issue with doc/tests/tools where you
>> don't even have a Makefile.am in these directories in OMPI. You fixed it
>> by doing DIST_SUBDIRS=$(SUBDIRS). It means that distclean doesn't enter
>> those directories at all. But it also means that you don't get
>> doc/tests/tools in make dist when embedded is enabled. We don't build
>> hwloc tarballs in embedded mode so that's fine. Using the same idea for
>> my issue would require to build hwloc tarballs with plugins enabled and
>> ltld included (both non default), I don't thing we should to this way.
>> So we need a way to have src/libltdl stay in DIST_SUBDIRS by default, go
>> in SUBDIRS when needed, and disappear totally when embedded. So here's
>> the only solution I finally found: hwloc configure.ac sets a shell
>> variable to yes, and a new AM_CONDITIONAL adds src/libltdl to
>> DIST_SUBDIRS only when this variable is "yes".
>> This still causes hwloc tarballs to contain libltdl (because hwloc
>> configure.ac sets the variable to yes). It's still enabled only when the
>> system doesn't have libltdl installed or --with-included-ltdl is given,
>> as previously. And embedders totally ignore src/libltdl, including in
>> distclean, because they don't set the variable to yes.
>> If an embedder ever wants to use hwloc plugins, he will have to
>> duplicate what the hwloc configure.ac does , and it can still link
>> with another libltdl if needed (to be tested).
>> Patch attached, on top of trunk. Note that you may need these additional
>> commits if you or Pavan want to test things 
>> Let me know what you think because you have the same problem as Pavan
>> when OMPI switches to hwloc v1.6+
>>  Enabling ltdl requires some code like below:configure.ac
>> AM_PROG_LIBTOOL([dlopen win32-dll])
>> # Here's what we need to configure ltdl properly
>> LTDL_INIT([recursive convenience])
>> # Tell src/Makefile.am that things were configured under src/libltdl/
>> libtool doesn't seem to like having it in a HWLOC_SETUP_LTDL macro
>> outside of the main, and I think we have to let embedders call
>> AM_PROG_LIBTOOL() directly in case they need other options.
>> There's also a hack below these lines that is specific to the
>> "recursive" mode, but we may switch to "subproject" mode (hwloc
>> configure explicitly calls libltdl configure) at some point if libtool
>> doesn't fix the issue.
> Jeff Squyres
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