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Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] RFC: usnic BTL MPI_T pvar scheme
From: Paul Hargrove (phhargrove_at_[hidden])
Date: 2013-11-05 17:54:37


Jeff,

If this approach is to be adopted by other components (and perhaps other
MPIs), then it would be important for the enumeration variable name to be
derived in a UNIFORM way:
    <framework>_<component>_SOMETHING
Without a fixed value for "SOMETHING" somebody will need to read sources
(or documentation) to make the connection.

In the slides you used "btl_usnic_devices", which seems overly specific
since a single NIC might have multiple PORTS making the "_devices" term
inappropriate/misleading (yes, it matches "device" in the sense of
/dev/foo, but not in the sense of a device as a physical object). For tcp
on a multi-homed host "device" is again not necessarily the first word that
comes to mind for identifying the "interface" or listening address.
 Perhaps something nice and generic like "_instances", which is at least
consistent with the definition of "module" given at
http://www.open-mpi.org/faq/?category=developers#ompi-terminology

-Paul

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
<jsquyres_at_[hidden]>wrote:

> WHAT: suggestion for how to expose multiple MPI_T pvar values for a given
> variable.
>
> WHY: so that we have a common convention across OMPI (and possibly set a
> precedent for other MPI implementations...?).
>
> WHERE: ompi/mca/btl/usnic, but if everyone likes it, potentially elsewhere
> in OMPI
>
> TIMEOUT: before 1.7.4, so let's set a first timeout of next Tuesday
> teleconf (Nov 12)
>
> More detail:
> ------------
>
> Per my discussion on the call today, I'm sending the attached PPT of how
> we're exposing MPI_T performance variables in the usnic BTL in the
> multi-BTL case.
>
> Feedback is welcome, especially because we're the first MPI implementation
> to expose MPI_T pvars in this way (already committed on the trunk and
> targeted for 1.7.4). So this methodology may well become a useful
> precedent.
>
> ** Issue #1: we want to expose each usnic BTL pvar (e.g.,
> btl_usnic_num_sends) on a per-usnic-BTL-*module* basis. How to do this?
>
> 1. Add a prefix/suffix on each pvar name (e.g., btl_usnic_num_sends_0,
> btl_usnic_num_sends_1, ...etc.).
> 2. Return an array of values under the single name (btl_usnic_num_sends)
> -- one value for each BTL module.
>
> We opted for the 2nd option. The MPI_T pvar interface provides a way to
> get the array length for a pvar, so this is all fine and good.
>
> Specifically: btl_usnic_num_sends returns an array of N values, where N is
> the number of usnic BTL modules being used by the MPI process. Each slot
> in the array corresponds to the value from one usnic BTL module.
>
> ** Issue #2: but how do you map a given value to an underlying Linux usnic
> interface?
>
> Our solution was twofold:
>
> 1. Guarantee that the ordering of values in all pvar arrays is the same
> (i.e., usnic BTL module 0 will always be in slot 0, usnic BTL module 1 will
> always be in slot 1, ...etc.).
>
> 2. Add another pvar that is an MPI_T state variable with an associated
> MPI_T "enumeration", which contains string names of the underlying Linux
> devices. This allows you to map a given value from a pvar to an underlying
> Linux device (e.g., from usnic BTL module 2 to /dev/usnic_3, or whatever).
>
> See the attached PPT.
>
> If people have no objection to this, we should use this convention across
> OMPI (e.g., for other BTLs that expose MPI_T pvars).
>
> --
> Jeff Squyres
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Paul H. Hargrove                          PHHargrove_at_[hidden]
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