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Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] PML selection logic
From: Aurélien Bouteiller (bouteill_at_[hidden])
Date: 2008-06-23 13:59:32


The first approach sounds fair enough to me. We should avoid 2 and 3
as the pml selection mechanism used to be
more complex before we reduced it to accommodate a major design bug in
the BTL selection process. When using the complete PML selection, BTL
would be initialized several times, leading to a variety of bugs.
Eventually the PML selection should return to its old self, when the
BTL bug gets fixed.

Aurelien

Le 23 juin 08 à 12:36, Ralph H Castain a écrit :

> Yo all
>
> I've been doing further research into the modex and came across
> something I
> don't fully understand. It seems we have each process insert into
> the modex
> the name of the PML module that it selected. Once the modex has
> exchanged
> that info, it then loops across all procs in the job to check their
> selection, and aborts if any proc picked a different PML module.
>
> All well and good...assuming that procs actually -can- choose
> different PML
> modules and hence create an "abort" scenario. However, if I look
> inside the
> PML's at their selection logic, I find that a proc can ONLY pick a
> module
> other than ob1 if:
>
> 1. the user specifies the module to use via -mca pml xyz or by using a
> module specific mca param to adjust its priority. In this case,
> since the
> mca param is propagated, ALL procs have no choice but to pick that
> same
> module, so that can't cause us to abort (we will have already
> returned an
> error and aborted if the specified module can't run).
>
> 2. the pml/cm module detects that an MTL module was selected, and
> that it is
> other than "psm". In this case, the CM module will be selected
> because its
> default priority is higher than that of OB1.
>
> In looking deeper into the MTL selection logic, it appears to me
> that you
> either have the required capability or you don't. I can see that in
> some
> environments (e.g., rsh across unmanaged collections of machines),
> it might
> be possible for someone to launch across a set of machines where
> some do and
> some don't have the required support. However, in all other cases,
> this will
> be homogeneous across the system.
>
> Given this analysis (and someone more familiar with the PML should
> feel free
> to confirm or correct it), it seems to me that this could be
> streamlined via
> one or more means:
>
> 1. at the most, we could have rank=0 add the PML module name to the
> modex,
> and other procs simply check it against their own and return an
> error if
> they differ. This accomplishes the identical functionality to what
> we have
> today, but with much less info in the modex.
>
> 2. we could eliminate this info from the modex altogether by
> requiring the
> user to specify the PML module if they want something other than the
> default
> OB1. In this case, there can be no confusion over what each proc is
> to use.
> The CM module will attempt to init the MTL - if it cannot do so,
> then the
> job will return the correct error and tell the user that CM/MTL
> support is
> unavailable.
>
> 3. we could again eliminate the info by not inserting it into the
> modex if
> (a) the default PML module is selected, or (b) the user specified
> the PML
> module to be used. In the first case, each proc can simply check to
> see if
> they picked the default - if not, then we can insert the info to
> indicate
> the difference. Thus, in the "standard" case, no info will be
> inserted.
>
> In the second case, we will already get an error if the specified
> PML module
> could not be used. Hence, the modex check provides no additional
> info or
> value.
>
> I understand the motivation to support automation. However, in this
> case,
> the automation actually doesn't seem to buy us very much, and it isn't
> coming "free". So perhaps some change in how this is done would be
> in order?
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
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